Just yesterday we posed the question: Can [Fat] Americans even remember what they had for breakfast? Today we complement that with: Christ, Fat Americans are the most petty, annoying, childish douchebaggery-lovin’ scoundrels on the planet. More than dirty Muslims!
Now, if I were President, I’m guessing lots of people would think I’m an ass for saying such dreadful things about my constituents. Know what people would think if I passed a stimulus bill, escalated troop levels in Afghanistan (like I said I would!) and bowed to emperor of Japan? They’d goddamn want me impeached!
Public Policy Polling has another mind-bending partisan number from its national survey. Right now, 20 percent of Americans “support the impeachment of President Obama for his actions so far.” That number includes 35 percent of Republicans, to only 15 percent of independents and 10 percent of Democrats.
“I’m not clear exactly what ‘high crimes and misdemeanors’ they are using to justify that position,” said PPP’s Tom Jensen, “but there may be a certain segment of voters on both the right and the left these days that simply think the President doing things they don’t agree with is grounds for removal from office.”
Oh, you know. High crimes such as apologizing for America’s actions; for suggesting that — perhaps — Americans don’t deserve to die because they can’t afford health insurance; for spending money while we’re in debt. Ack! What a turd!
Seriously, Republicans. Let’s be honest. I know it’s not very sporting to suggest that Obama’s dealing with a shit sandwich because his predecessor was a lying, incompetent puppet-President, or that George W. Bush grew the government by the largest number of people in history, or that Obama’s trying to dig Fat America out of the fucking mess that was eight years of George W. Bush. (Hey, scumbags: You DO realize that we could pay for universal health if we hadn’t gone to war in Iraq, right?) And you pricks want him to deal with all of that in 11 months? And tell heads of foreign states to fuck off?
The reason you can’t impeach Obama — stay with me — is because Article II, Section 4 of the United States Constitution says the following: “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
Hey, we know Obama’s Cairo speech was no blowjob in the Oval Office — a notoriously high crime! — but let’s not impeach the guy over it. How about we impeach over Iran-Contra? (Except that your Christ figure, Reagan is dead.)
In fact, if you want to impeach any recent President for stupid shit, you should have gone after Bush Sr. when he nominated David Souter to the Supreme Court. That kind of bit you in the ass in the end, didn’t it?
Anyway, the rest of the article reads as such:
Without probing further it’s hard to say, but like the post-Iraq War opposition to George W. Bush, the first-year opposition to President Obama has included a lot of rhetoric about the president’s supposed violations of the Constitution. With Bush, it was war-related; with Obama, it’s Glenn Beck critiques like “where in the Constitution does the president have the right to take over a car company?”
Oh, Glenn Beck: Where in the Constitution does it say the President doesn’t have the right to take over a car company? Which, by the way, is a simpleton’s view of how the deal went down. But that makes sense because Glenn Beck is a simpleton.
And just so we’re clear: $700 billion in bailout money to banks, good. Taking 60 percent of an American institution into government ownership: bad. How long will GM remain a part of the government? Hard to say. But they have more than enough money to pay off the $6.7 billion they owe the U.S. government, and we’re also pretty sure Obama doesn’t want to be an auto manufacturer.
No, no. We know what’s really going on Republicans. And yes, it’s a “liberal idea” that I’m going to spout, but that doesn’t make it any less true. You just don’t like Obama because he’s black! Don’t believe us? Just look at the purity test.
That’s right! Being black is a high-crime! Being a white, God-fearing, hate-spewing, rich, racist, cry-baby piece of shit? That’s the Fat American way!
Crying racism is the lazy man’s way of telling your ideological foes to STFU.
And saying we should impeach someone who’s committed neither high crimes nor misdemeanors is a fucking moron’s way of interpreting the Constitution.
Right. Fortunately, I steered clear of those rhetorical shoals by neatly avoiding any mention of impeachment. But all of your red herrings aside, you cried racism because, after all, why else would anyone ever deign to criticize Obama?
Oh, please. Let’s just stop the fucking horseshit right now. We went out of our way (or I did) to make diphits who buy the impeachment argument get all up in arms by dropping the racism bomb. (People like you, apparently!)
I can guaran-fucking-tee you that in my home state more people there who don’t support Obama don’t support him because he’s a dirty Negro Muslim Kenyan than anything based on policy. I mean, the guy isn’t all that different from George Bush!
And while we’re at it, the poll itself doesn’t include any information of substance regarding the wish for impeachment. But I made the leap that since the leading light of the conservative movement, Glenn Beck, is a racist asshole, and Rush Limbaugh is a racist asshole, it must be racism. And since there are no longer moderates like Joe Scarborough in the party and no one in the party can think for himself, well, you see where I’m going with this, right?
Bring a real argument next time.
Hilarious! On the one hand, any criticism of Obama must be race-based. On the other, “the guy isn’t all that different from George Bush!”
You mean, our recent president who set a low for Modern Presidents in unpopularity? Who was called “BusHitler” and routinely derided as an idiot, chimp, warmonger, and criminal? The guy who started us on the road to fiscal insolvency and got us dragged down in two regional wars?
That George Bush?
Bush withstood some pretty withering criticisms regarding his policy choices, and rightly so. But if Obama isn’t all that different from Bush, shouldn’t he be held to the same criticisms without his supporters running in circles and screaming racism?
And how do you know exactly what lies in the hearts of Obama’s critics, anyway? From your argument, if Obama is so like Bush, why couldn’t his critics simply be disappointed with Obama’s clinging to the status quo? Why are you so certain that they harbor dark racist hatred in their hearts? Where’s your proof, other than your broad but fairly specific assertion that his critics think he is a “dirty Negro Muslim Kenyan”? Which critics? Rush Limbaugh? Glenn Beck? I would imagine that these two would be drummed out of society if they uttered anything near that. You may disagree with their policy takes, but that does not make them “racist assholes”. Once again, you resort to the racism charge to shut off debate and delegitimize your opponents.
You guys are pretty quick with the trigger. Too bad you ended up shooting each other and not me.
Actually, I’m making the claim that Obama isn’t all that different from Bush. But see, I’m a thinking person. If the knuckleheads out there screaming for Obama’s impeachment used reason, and maybe, say, compared his policies to Bush’s, I’d buy your argument that it’s not race-based.
But no one out there — and again, I’m writing specifically of the article around which this post was written — has specific charges against Obama. But venturing beyond that article, because you seem to want to, when asked for specifics, they can’t think of anything or they pony up the GM bullshit socialism answer. Baloney.
Here’s the thing about your pals on the right: They’ve forgotten – or probably never cared – that Bush kept raising the debt ceiling. But it’s sure a big deal now that Obama’s done it!
And they didn’t care that Bush was throwing away billions of dollars on a unnecessary war. But they sure care now that Obama’s sending more soldiers to Afghanistan!
And they didn’t care when the Bush and Cheney goons were torturing suspects in Guantanamo and secret prisons, but now that we want to treat these suspects with the parameters defined in the Geneva Conventions, it’s a big deal.
(Of course, few on the right make those arguments because few on the right think that much. Most of them are just content to say Obama destroys the Constitution, blah blah blah.)
For Christ’s sake, there are member of Congress — the United States Congress! — who won’t say they think Obama was born in the United States. Bill Posey introduced a bill into the House that stated presidential candidates must submit a birth certificate to run for president. It had at least nine Republicans backing the bill with him. You can’t tell me that if a white guy running for President had immigrant parents he’d have the same problem. Check with Michael Dukakis. I’m sure he’ll agree.
As for your absurd assertion that the leaders of the conservative movement – Rush and Beck – aren’t racists, let’s start here:
Limbaugh: http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200906040035
Beck on “Fox & Friends:” “The President has exposed himself as a guy … over and over and over again … who has a deep-seated hatred for white people … or the white culture…. I don’t know what it is.”
I think what gets me most angry about the racism of the right is when they get all indignant when they’re called out on it, and how they sit there while someone like Beck calls Obama a racist, say nothing and then get mad when they’re called racists. Projecting much? Maybe – and I’m being sincere here – you’re the exception.
You shoot yourself every time you defend the kind of insane gut-reaction thinking that goes on on the right. Go back to the kids table.
You don’t leave the fever swamps much, do you?
What liberals don’t understand is that Bush was, fiscally, one of their own. With the two wars, No Child Left Behind, the Medicare Prescription Drug benefit, the disastrous Farm bill, and his inexplicable failure to veto bloated spending bills, W was the Republicans answer to Lyndon Johnson. And LBJ was a disaster.
Far from being a darling of he right that you imagine, Bush was routinely lambasted by the Right for his spending policies. The distaste for Bush’s spending habits in conservative and libertarian circles was routinely chronicled during his administration. Why? Because those movements are all about limited government and low spending. Bush was tolerated by these folks not because he was any good, but because a Democratic President would likely be worse. Given Obama’s breathtaking spending, these fiscal conservatives were undoubtedly right.
So Obama quadrupled the debt, ramming through a gigantic spending bill nobody had time to read and is attempting to do the same with the health care bill. And Republicans are racist for opposing this?
And if Obama defenders like yourself get their panties in a wad when Obama polls badly with whites, could it be that he may have done something to deserve it? Like, calling his grandmother a “typical white woman”? Or saying that the (largely white) flyover country was filled with bitter Biblical gun clingers? Or assuming the white cop was out of line with his buddy Prof. Gates before any facts came in? Beck was most likely referencing these events when saying that. And honestly, I don’t get why you assume the Limbaugh clip you provide as evidence of his racism is in any way racist.
Simply put, Obama wouldn’t have won without significant white support, so the polling doesn’t show that whites are inherently racist. It is a good thing for the country that a black man was elected to office. It is this particular black man and his performance that has a lot of people up in arms.
It’s just absolutely, fundamentally wrong to say this spending that we’re seeing right now is Obama’s. Try reading something from your Libertarian friends at CATO.
“Yes, Obama did add to the waste with the so-called stimulus, the omnibus appropriation, the CHIP bill, and the cash-for-clunkers nonsense, but as the chart illustrates, these boondoggles only amounted to just a tiny percentage of the FY2009 total — about $140 billion out of a $3.5 trillion budget.”
http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/11/29/defending-obama-again/?123123
Ugh. Entitled to your own opinion, not your own facts.
Yeah, OK. Bush’s numbers, from a January 18, 2009 Washington Post (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/behind-the-numbers/2009/01/bush_approval_a_last_look.html):
WP: “Overall, 68 percent of Republicans approve of the job the president did, but partisan views on Bush are further split by ideology. Among conservative Republicans, he is a resounding success: 82 percent approve, 53 percent strongly. But moderate and liberal GOPers have a more tepid take. Just over half (52 percent) approve, only about a quarter (26 percent) do so strongly.”
Look, it’s clear that you’re a fucking crackpot. Only someone as racist as Rush Limbaugh or insane would suggest he’s not racist. Remember, he had to resign from sports commentating after his McNabb pronouncement. And that’s really just one of the most recent (and minor) comments in his illustrious career of being a dick. And btw, the middle o the country is filled with bitter people clinging to their guns and religion. Wake up.
But your final paragraph suggests that every white person in America voted for Obama. What about the nearly 60 million who voted for McCain? Think they’re lining up to tell the President good job?
Look, I’m never going to convince you, because you’re nuts, so let’s just end it here. We’re right, You’re wrong. See you in St. Louis.
Sigh. You two are fighting the last war in taking on Bush, and by taking on Bush, you’re not taking on me, because I would not deign to defend Bush on his spending (most of which skyrocketed with a Democratic Congress, by the way). And lest you think conservatives and libertarians weren’t talking about this way back when, check out this composite article questioning whether Bush was a socialist in 2005 by Andrew Sullivan (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/article570387.ece). There were plenty of conservatives and libertarians who had issues with Bush even then. And take note, all of this was before Bush was saddled with a Democratic Congress that took him into even further profligacy.
Also, calling me a “fucking crackpot” for defending Limbaugh is really beyond the pale. If Limbaugh is such a racist, why would he have Clarence Thomas officiate his wedding? Oh, that’s right – Clarence Thomas is an Uncle Tom for not having the “right” views, notwithstanding a childhood mired in a poverty far worse than anything your beloved Obama suffered through (at least, that which we know from objective sources). No, like your liberal comrades, you dismiss Limbaugh as a racist because you don’t have the intellect to debate him on policy. He’s racist and he should STFU, and to both of you, that is all there is to it.
So getting back to the point – you two admit that Bush was terrible and that Obama equals Bush, but steadfastly maintain that white criticisms of Obama must be racist. That is insane.
Your vile blog is filled with contempt and hatred, and I will not frequent it any longer.
Merry Christmas.
I reply: Sigh. It takes a big man to start a bunch of arguments he can’t finish and then get angry at us when we finish them and point out that he’s an idiot. It also takes a special someone – say, a conservative – to go out of his way to misread a comment like mine about Obama and Bush being similar and try unsuccessfully to use it against me. You won’t find the word “equal” anywhere on this page before your pitiful arguments.
Congratulations on taking a day and a half to find one article in which Andrew Sullivan and three others (including Ann Coulter — are you serious?) talk about Bush’s fiscal policy.
We’ve commented on Thomas before. I won’t get into it here.
You’re out of your depth. Good riddance.
OMG, Limbaugh can’t be a racist! He has a black friend! He also said these things:
“I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They’re interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there’s a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn’t deserve.”
“Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”
“Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”
“They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?”
“Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”
“You can’t criticize the little black man-child. You just can’t do it, ’cause it’s just not right. It’s not fair. He’s such a victim.”
Limbaugh praised former segregationist Sen. Strom Thurmond for calling a gay soldier “not normal”: “He’s not encumbered by being politically correct…. If you want to know what America used to be–and a lot of people wish it still were–then you listen to Strom Thurmond.”
In 1992, on his now-defunct TV show, Limbaugh expressed his ire when Spike Lee urged that black schoolchildren get off from school to see his film Malcolm X: “Spike, if you’re going to do that, let’s complete the education experience. You should tell them that they should loot the theater, and then blow it up on their way out.”
Then there’s this:
Here he is calling for the segregation of school buses because in “Obama’s America” a white kid was beaten up by a black kid:
http://crooksandliars.com/logan-murphy/limbaugh
Of course, I could go on. I won’t, however, because *we’re* the vile ones.
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